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Unbelievable credit score/employers mess video |
USA TODAY story on employers and credit scores, 8/11/2003
Gannett outlet fails to provide its source, saying it happened too long ago
Influence > Media > Conglomerates > Gannett > USA TODAY, August 11, 2003
3/6/2010
Some information etched into the walls of the internet may never go away, and worse, you may never know who said it. Here is an example of that searchable, indexed folklore available to 6 billion people that seems to be getting worse.
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From: creditscoring.com
To: Sandra Block, USA TODAY
Subject: Re: credit score, employers II
Sent: April 7, 2009
Please reply.
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Maybe the accuracy police can help.
It worked!
Darn.
To: J. Malveaux, J. Harris, Jennifer Hughes; SHRM
From: creditscoring.com
Subject: RE: credit score, employers III
Sent: Sent: April 9, 2009
Do you claim that employers use credit scores?
(copy of email correspondence with USA TODAY)
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Subject: RE: credit score, employers III
From: Jennifer Hughes, SHRM
To: creditscoring.com
Sent: April 9, 2009
Hi Greg,
According to SHRM’s 2006 Weapons in the Workplace Survey, 42% of surveyed employers run credit checks on potential employees as part of routine background checks. In SHRM’s 2004 Reference and Background Checking Survey, 19% of surveyed employers said they always used credit checks as a type of information in a background check, 24% sometimes used credit checks, and 18% rarely used credit checks.
If you have any other questions, let me know.
Thanks,
Jenny
Jennifer Hughes
Media Affairs Specialist
Society for Human Resource Management
[address]
Phone: [number]
E-mail: [email address]
www.shrm.org
HR Leadership for the New Economy. Only at the SHRM Annual Conference & Exposition.
June 28 – July 1, 2009 | New Orleans, La.
Find out more at www.shrm.org/conferences/annual.
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Just one clarification:
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To: Jennifer Hughes, SHRM
From: creditscoring.com
Subject: RE: credit score, employers III
Sent: April 9, 2009
Thank you.
What are the survey results regarding credit scores (a single number calculated from a person's credit history), specifically?
Do any of the survey questions use the term "credit score"?
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Subject: RE: credit score, employers III
From: Jennifer Hughes, SHRM
To: creditscoring.com
Hi Greg,
Neither survey discusses credit scores, only credit checks.
Sorry!
Thanks,
Jenny
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Sorry? Sorry?
Ha-ha! Don't be sorry. Watch this!
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To: Sandra Block, USA TODAY
From: creditscoring.com
Subject: RE: credit score, employers III
Sent: April 9, 2009
What correction will you make?
(copy of email correspondence with SHRM)
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From: Sandra Block, USA TODAY
To: creditscoring.com
Subject: RE: credit score, employers III
Sent: April 9, 2009, 5:19 PM
Let me check with my editors, thanks.
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From: Sandra Block, USA TODAY
To: creditscoring.com
Subject: RE: credit score, employers III
Sent: April 9, 2009, 5:45 PM
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were referring to a story from five years ago. I don't know the original source material for that column. We get a lot of press releases.
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Curses. Foiled again!
Gannett wins because rules are rules: If a story is over 5 years old, you can leave it on your server for everybody to read for the rest of time— even if you can't cite your sources.
Hey, wait a minute— ah-HA!
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To: Sandra Block, USA TODAY
From: "creditscoring.com"
Subject: RE: credit score, employers III
Sent: April 9, 2009
Last month's story to which you referred, at http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/credit/2009-03-05-economy-credit-scores_N.htm, makes the same assumption:
"And if scores can drop even if consumers do nothing wrong, they say, it raises the question of whether there's a flaw in the credit scoring formulas relied upon by the nation's lenders, insurers, and increasingly employers and landlords."
Will you request that the writer and your editors identify the sources?
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Watch what happened with that story, and this one at another Gannett outlet.
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Lines are drawn
Are you a Believer or Nonbeliever—are they really used in jobs? Credit score use by employers showdown.
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April, 1997: "Information on how to obtain one's credit score is suspiciously absent from your site. How do I get mine?"
"And we're not running a game show. I mean, we're evaluating risk. We're not trying to have people get--achieve the highest score."
"Fisher is a fan of going by the book and then beyond it."
"He beat the scoring proponents to the punch by scooping up the web address http://www.creditscoring.com, from which he launches often strident, sometimes wacky, but usually well-documented attacks on the credit-scoring concept and the industries that support it."
Realty Consumers Empowered By Online "Peoples" Court - "His Web site CreditScoring.com helped him-- and millions of other consumers-- extend fair credit reporting rights to credit scoring information."
"Fisher operates the www.creditscoring.com Web site, which skewers the secrecy of the credit bureaus and Fair, Isaac." - The Detroit News
"CreditScoring.com is an exceptionally-interesting site that offers news and information regarding credit scoring and--
really-- the entire credit process."
"'Garbage in, garbage out,' says Greg Fisher of Dayton, Ohio, who runs two Web sites on the subject, creditscoring.com and creditaccuracy.com."
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